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	<title>Comments on: Why is NAC such a volatile subject?</title>
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		<title>By: LonerVamp</title>
		<link>http://infosecplace.com/blog/2007/08/06/why-is-nac-such-a-volatile-subject/comment-page-1/#comment-19608</link>
		<dc:creator>LonerVamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like to think of it in terms of usefulness. You don&#039;t have to answer this question, but maybe think about how many medium-large implementations of NAC you know of that not only got started, but were actually successful and not painful? 

After that, all the rest is defensive blocking and tackling...

Of course, you may know of plenty implementations, but my impression of NAC roll-outs has been that lots of people talk about it, but there are just no real success stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like to think of it in terms of usefulness. You don&#8217;t have to answer this question, but maybe think about how many medium-large implementations of NAC you know of that not only got started, but were actually successful and not painful? </p>
<p>After that, all the rest is defensive blocking and tackling&#8230;</p>
<p>Of course, you may know of plenty implementations, but my impression of NAC roll-outs has been that lots of people talk about it, but there are just no real success stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Mine is Bigger Than Yours: Nevis Networks vs StillSecure</title>
		<link>http://infosecplace.com/blog/2007/08/06/why-is-nac-such-a-volatile-subject/comment-page-1/#comment-19595</link>
		<dc:creator>Mine is Bigger Than Yours: Nevis Networks vs StillSecure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 04:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a &#8220;nonpartisan&#8221; swing at a mutual &#8220;technology&#8221; opponent (StillSecure). And Mike Farnum who innocently triggered this debate appeals for civility and calm. After all we do have something [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a &#8220;nonpartisan&#8221; swing at a mutual &#8220;technology&#8221; opponent (StillSecure). And Mike Farnum who innocently triggered this debate appeals for civility and calm. After all we do have something [...]</p>
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		<title>By: kurt wismer</title>
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		<dc:creator>kurt wismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 04:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I believe there is one big reason for this: no one does it exactly the same.  From pre-admission to post admission to with or without an agent to inline or out of band, yada yada yada.&quot;

hmmm... reminds me of HIPS... perhaps it will go the same way or perhaps NAC vendors will look at what the HIPS &#039;industry&#039; learned as an object lesson and actually sub-categorize themselves appropriately... vague, overly generic terms don&#039;t really help the buyer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I believe there is one big reason for this: no one does it exactly the same.  From pre-admission to post admission to with or without an agent to inline or out of band, yada yada yada.&#8221;</p>
<p>hmmm&#8230; reminds me of HIPS&#8230; perhaps it will go the same way or perhaps NAC vendors will look at what the HIPS &#8216;industry&#8217; learned as an object lesson and actually sub-categorize themselves appropriately&#8230; vague, overly generic terms don&#8217;t really help the buyer&#8230;</p>
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